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		<title>Comment on Is the Online Chatter Clanking or Starting to Drone on For You? by Patricia Weber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sally, that&#039;s the heart beat of that droning and clanking: here&#039;s how. It&#039;s usually either here&#039;s why and here&#039;s who. 

Glad to hear you are un-joining and more from those folks.

Where to from here is a great question. That&#039;s what I am noodling around, and I do think there are certain things that work for me that will work for others. Getting around to the start of THAT conversation shortly.

Jonathan, I like &quot;finishing something everyday.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sally, that&#8217;s the heart beat of that droning and clanking: here&#8217;s how. It&#8217;s usually either here&#8217;s why and here&#8217;s who. </p>
<p>Glad to hear you are un-joining and more from those folks.</p>
<p>Where to from here is a great question. That&#8217;s what I am noodling around, and I do think there are certain things that work for me that will work for others. Getting around to the start of THAT conversation shortly.</p>
<p>Jonathan, I like &#8220;finishing something everyday.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is the Online Chatter Clanking or Starting to Drone on For You? by Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann - Someone else I respect recommended the Poke the Box book, but it put me off when he was talking about &quot;starting something everyday&quot;. I think what we are talking about is more like &quot;finishing something everyday&quot;?

Pat - Extreme examples used everywhere these days - agree on that

Sally - You wouldn&#039;t ever unfriend ME would you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann &#8211; Someone else I respect recommended the Poke the Box book, but it put me off when he was talking about &#8220;starting something everyday&#8221;. I think what we are talking about is more like &#8220;finishing something everyday&#8221;?</p>
<p>Pat &#8211; Extreme examples used everywhere these days &#8211; agree on that</p>
<p>Sally &#8211; You wouldn&#8217;t ever unfriend ME would you?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is the Online Chatter Clanking or Starting to Drone on For You? by Sally Foley-Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sally Foley-Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed your post Pat.  (Thanks for pointing out where your name was, I did skip right over it, sorry, just keen to read!)

The drone or clank for me is the pull-in on &#039;how&#039; to succeed in &#039;xyz&#039; and then not actually give you the tools for &#039;how&#039;.  I appreciate you have to pay for those.... and keep paying to keep getting better tools.  My issue is stop telling me you&#039;re going to give me the &#039;how to&#039; and then not.  I&#039;m sick of it and I&#039;m starting to actively pull away (unfriend, unlike, unfollow, and 1 I&#039;ve actually openly not recommended to some close contacts).  For me, it is getting into the unethical to constantly barrage me with &quot;I&#039;ll show you how&quot; and then not actually do it.

The drone of pitches have been around for years, however with social media and online strategies the speed and volume now are creating the cackling in my head ;-)  {There&#039;s a certain part to this which requires me to keep improving on being able to &#039;smell&#039; these out before it&#039;s too late.}

More in line with the examples you gave in your post, I agree with you that&#039;s there&#039;s so (too) much out there.  In conversation with a great photographer friend yesterday, she made the comment that if she thinks a certain way about a certain thing, surely 10 others do too.  If you think this way Pat, surely others do too.... So where to from here ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed your post Pat.  (Thanks for pointing out where your name was, I did skip right over it, sorry, just keen to read!)</p>
<p>The drone or clank for me is the pull-in on &#8216;how&#8217; to succeed in &#8216;xyz&#8217; and then not actually give you the tools for &#8216;how&#8217;.  I appreciate you have to pay for those&#8230;. and keep paying to keep getting better tools.  My issue is stop telling me you&#8217;re going to give me the &#8216;how to&#8217; and then not.  I&#8217;m sick of it and I&#8217;m starting to actively pull away (unfriend, unlike, unfollow, and 1 I&#8217;ve actually openly not recommended to some close contacts).  For me, it is getting into the unethical to constantly barrage me with &#8220;I&#8217;ll show you how&#8221; and then not actually do it.</p>
<p>The drone of pitches have been around for years, however with social media and online strategies the speed and volume now are creating the cackling in my head <img src='http://sharp-end-training.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   {There&#8217;s a certain part to this which requires me to keep improving on being able to &#8216;smell&#8217; these out before it&#8217;s too late.}</p>
<p>More in line with the examples you gave in your post, I agree with you that&#8217;s there&#8217;s so (too) much out there.  In conversation with a great photographer friend yesterday, she made the comment that if she thinks a certain way about a certain thing, surely 10 others do too.  If you think this way Pat, surely others do too&#8230;. So where to from here <img src='http://sharp-end-training.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Is the Online Chatter Clanking or Starting to Drone on For You? by Patricia Weber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ann. First I DO see my name there - patweber, up in the left of the post. Do you not see it on your end?

I like that phrase - discontinuous improvement. Sort of like a - pattern interrupt. Dare I say it - LOL - I think I may interrupt my pattern and pass on reading one more thing about it!

Jonathan, it was a bit tongue in cheek yes; and extreme examples are necessary at times. 

With people lately raving about their own disconnection from online networking (have you seen more being written about it?) something is behind such actions.

For me, it the drone of things. Hence my asking, what&#039;s a clank for you and how is it affecting you?

Thanks for the conversation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ann. First I DO see my name there &#8211; patweber, up in the left of the post. Do you not see it on your end?</p>
<p>I like that phrase &#8211; discontinuous improvement. Sort of like a &#8211; pattern interrupt. Dare I say it &#8211; LOL &#8211; I think I may interrupt my pattern and pass on reading one more thing about it!</p>
<p>Jonathan, it was a bit tongue in cheek yes; and extreme examples are necessary at times. </p>
<p>With people lately raving about their own disconnection from online networking (have you seen more being written about it?) something is behind such actions.</p>
<p>For me, it the drone of things. Hence my asking, what&#8217;s a clank for you and how is it affecting you?</p>
<p>Thanks for the conversation!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is the Online Chatter Clanking or Starting to Drone on For You? by Ann Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 11:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, ain&#039;t that the truth. I just put the &#039;heard it all before&#039; feeling down to the fact that I&#039;ve been around the block too many times. I think that&#039;s why the &#039;Discontinuous Improvement&#039; thing appealed to me. I&#039;ve also just bought Seth Godin&#039;s book &#039;Poke the Box&#039; which is about creating what&#039;s coming not regurgitating what&#039;s already worked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, ain&#8217;t that the truth. I just put the &#8216;heard it all before&#8217; feeling down to the fact that I&#8217;ve been around the block too many times. I think that&#8217;s why the &#8216;Discontinuous Improvement&#8217; thing appealed to me. I&#8217;ve also just bought Seth Godin&#8217;s book &#8216;Poke the Box&#8217; which is about creating what&#8217;s coming not regurgitating what&#8217;s already worked.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is the Online Chatter Clanking or Starting to Drone on For You? by Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 08:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice link Ann thank you - I think what Pat was being rather tongue in cheek (although I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s a phrase used in the US). 

We have spoke about noise, clanking, chatter and what Pat describes is the cyber equivalent of being stuck with the permanent mental state of going on holiday, driving down the motorway, (sorry freeway), thinking you have left your front door wide open. (I think waking up at night debating Guru A over Guru B is taking it to extremes though... :-) )

I learnt a lot from working in contact centres/call centres in a previous life (not answering the phone - doing workflow mapping and other hyper boring stuff). One this is for sure about people who keep you awake at night - be they Mr Angry on the phone, or a guru is that they sure as heck aren&#039;t laid awake at night worrying about YOU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice link Ann thank you &#8211; I think what Pat was being rather tongue in cheek (although I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s a phrase used in the US). </p>
<p>We have spoke about noise, clanking, chatter and what Pat describes is the cyber equivalent of being stuck with the permanent mental state of going on holiday, driving down the motorway, (sorry freeway), thinking you have left your front door wide open. (I think waking up at night debating Guru A over Guru B is taking it to extremes though&#8230; <img src='http://sharp-end-training.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>I learnt a lot from working in contact centres/call centres in a previous life (not answering the phone &#8211; doing workflow mapping and other hyper boring stuff). One this is for sure about people who keep you awake at night &#8211; be they Mr Angry on the phone, or a guru is that they sure as heck aren&#8217;t laid awake at night worrying about YOU.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is the Online Chatter Clanking or Starting to Drone on For You? by Ann Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 23:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear blogger (sorry there is no name on your post) 

I think what you may need is a dose of Discontinuous Improvement 

Continuous improvement is a good discipline, but sometimes it just isn&#039;t enough. If you are behind the curve, or your market is changing too fast, or you are just too ambitious to be satisfied with slow steady progress then you need to do something discontinuous.

Discontinuous improvement is often safer than it seems, while continuous improvement may be more dangerous than it appears. In times of rapid change, continuously improving something which the market no longer values may be the worst possible thing to do.

This was written by Alistair Dryburgh and he explains his manifesto here: 

http://www.akenhurst.com/pdfs/dimanifesto.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear blogger (sorry there is no name on your post) </p>
<p>I think what you may need is a dose of Discontinuous Improvement </p>
<p>Continuous improvement is a good discipline, but sometimes it just isn&#8217;t enough. If you are behind the curve, or your market is changing too fast, or you are just too ambitious to be satisfied with slow steady progress then you need to do something discontinuous.</p>
<p>Discontinuous improvement is often safer than it seems, while continuous improvement may be more dangerous than it appears. In times of rapid change, continuously improving something which the market no longer values may be the worst possible thing to do.</p>
<p>This was written by Alistair Dryburgh and he explains his manifesto here: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.akenhurst.com/pdfs/dimanifesto.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.akenhurst.com/pdfs/dimanifesto.pdf</a></p>
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